How did that happen, that they became your closest friends?

Um, well, they were the ones that, you know, in, in person, life, I mean, I didn't have a job.

A lot of these people didn't have jobs.

Uh, we don't love capitalism, and a lot of them are so very nor- neurodivergent that they just couldn't work, and a lot of them were younger.

Um, and, uh, yeah, it felt like...

It felt amazing to know that there were other people that actually cared about something other than themselves.

[laughs] Um, that were willing to, you know, help other people for free.

Mm-hmm.

How did that happen, that they became your closest friends?

ones that you know in in person life i mean i didn't have a job a lot of these people didn't have jobs uh we don't love capitalism and a lot of them are so very neurodivergent that they just couldn't work a lot of them were younger um and uh yeah it felt like it felt amazing to know that there were other people that actually cared about something other than themselves um that were willing to, you know, help other people for free.

I mean, they gave their time.

Really?

I know that I wasn't his best friend, but I don't know.

I just felt very close to him.

I admired him.

I respected him a lot.