So I'm very interested in how you got involved in it.

Yeah, it's like the... [laughs] I know a lot of people who are, like, you know, not even just musical theater heads, but, like, true theater nerds and know every single show, from, like, you know, classic to non-classic, traditional to not.

And I just kind of slipped in the cracks.

There are, like, many shows that I love, but they're very niche, they're very contemporary, they're very off the beaten path.

And there are lots of other shows that I'm just like, "Well, I've heard of it, but I don't, I don't think I've seen it." So anyway, brief introduction.

Um, I have always been interested in singing, dancing, acting, creating, period.

And, um, I started dancing as a kid.

Now let's talk about how you eventually got to Broadway from after graduation.