Interesting,

okay.

And you get a qualification in tech and then you go to spaces, places where they don't have a radio signal or telecoms or mobile network signal.

And they lack the basics and you have to ask yourself, how can these people actually use tech? Exactly.

And so it was very interesting in the education sector because we were training teachers at that time and I was tasked with, you know, introducing technology in such spaces.

But one of the big moments as well was when, in the middle of nowhere, I remember we were in Mfumbwe in Northwestern province and you go to a community school and they literally have nothing.

And we had conversations further on with my eventual co-founder around what could Zambians do to solve problems for themselves.

Yeah, they had