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Luke Swanson

Jul 6, 2026

17:19
Um, how are you feeling going into this year of the challenger? Like how are you feeling mentally? Like your boards, everything.
17:26
Yeah.
17:26
That's actually a funny, a funny way to tie in what we were just talking about too, because with competition, something I'm realizing in life is like, I don't, and Jack being, you know, having been on tour, you might have more understanding on this, but like, I don't know if it's better to be a thinker as a competitor or better to just be like the guy that could care less or not could care less, but like does not have the process and just goes out and surfs and figures it out because like, I've noticed like I look at myself and what I'm capable of.
17:56
And then I look at my results, like, you know, having a, just objectively a really bad year on the challenger last year, made like a handful of heats, like two or three heats.
18:06
And, and I'm like, I should be making these seats.
18:10
And I know it's a matter of time.
18:11
You can always like, you can always put it that way that, Oh, if you keep, you know, trying, it'll end up working.

22 MINS LATER

40:39
So so when you you said you grew up watching Jon Jon, how did you watch Jon Jon? Like where how did you become a Jon Jon fan? What was that like? What was consuming surf media like throughout your life? Because I'm very curious because it'll be so much different than how me and Jack grew up.

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