going to say even.

It was a little less beginner-friendly before.

And I still think it's a little less beginner-friendly than ChatGPT.

But yes, I would say right now we're pretty even.

And I think they're still both good at different things.

And so...

I was forced, and I kind of already knew this intuitively, but because Cloud was so good for so long, it just felt like it was never going to be like not the best.

What would your services be and what would you teach them? What do you do for them?

Like, you know, it's of the devil.

That are like, you know, the water usage or, you know, it's a plagiarism machine or whatever.

You know, I've heard all kinds of different things.

And while I can see that point of view, I also understand that the world is changing, just like with the Internet, just like with any sort of technological advancement in the past.

The world is changing.

And so pretty quickly.

I think there's the people that understand that when technology changes, there is a first mover's advantage.

So what is the future? for us in ai for the mortgage industry because we seem to be a little slow on the uptake generally speaking and i think that is just a finance world type of thing so what's what does the future hold for us in the mortgage industry i'd love to hear it

You have to get the lead.

And what I'll say is this.

That's not to be offensive either.

I think some people will call themselves salespeople.

But what I would argue is that a lot of loan officers and real estate agents are really very good at relationships, which I think is a... brilliant skill, but a very different skill to pure raw sales skills, right? And then also marketing, right? You kind of get taught, go talk to real estate agents, get business.

So if you're a loan officer, I would say, what are the things that as a loan officer, you need to do more of? And then how can you use it? So I'm also not a huge fan of...

It's hard.

So