You know what I

mean? Like I've got friends of mine and – sorry – There are people that I know in my life that have a time span, but I know that I can spend a couple of hours with them But I wouldn't go on a cruise with them because I couldn't – I've got like a time limit.

And so some people I would love to go and watch a game of footy with and other people I wouldn't because I'd just go, you're not going to let me watch and it's going to annoy me because I want to walk away from you so I can watch the game.

Yeah, I totally get it.

But do you know what? Any time an offer for a ticket to go and watch a game of footy, for me, is always like that's my happy place.

Like I really find it – I ride motorbikes and I watch the footy.

And to go to a game and just, you know, to be able to sit there and watch it, whether it's in a box or not, I love going to the SCG because I've got the tickets that are up in the stand.

the bin was very full when you got home i'm guessing

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... about underprivileged people [laughs] from another country? And then I'm gonna leave." So I, I wondered how it was for you guys, like, building up to this.

You've got all this naturalism.

You're organically building these characters.

How hard was it then for you guys to go, okay, the suffering of these people here is just, we're gonna ignore it? Like, how did you build those boundaries? 'Cause I thought it was so brilliantly...

You know, even though there's this massive primal scream right at the-

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Mm.