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Because ultimately, we want people to pursue a relationship with Christ, and we would r- much rather have someone be a Christian and go to church with one of these three f- fine people than be an atheist.

Um, whereas these people f- and oftentimes functionally see no difference between us and atheists.

But the idea that ours is untenable, these guys believe that God created everything out of nothing.

He could have created it however he wanted.

They believe that he's sovereign over everything, that he's the reason why everything happens, that he's pure act, that nothing can affect him.

And Aaron's probably the only one with the, uh, courage to be like, "Yeah, God could have had it any other way, but instead, he predestined most humans to just go to hell and burn forever." And most people, despite that maybe being more tenable, if you will, maybe more logically consistent, most people hear about that God and say, "Yeah, that's not a God worth worshiping."

Okay.