Mm-hmm.

And the idea, I think, that from what I've read, the idea is that this is sort of hacking the nervous system.

So you could have all sorts of things, like, this is not necessarily something I've read scientifically, but for example, your body can get s- get, get stuck into, like, earlier when I was talking about sympathetic and parasympathetic mo- like, parts of the nervous system, like fight and flight or rest and digest.

We know that certain types of, like, anxiety can get s- you stuck into essentially your sympathetic nervous system, your fight or flight nervous system-

Yeah

... to justify it.

You, you act- you can't prove a negative, right? And so to suggest that you can go, "I'm going to prove the, a negative," obviously you can debunk specific facts, you can, you can debunk specific, um, evidence, you can say that this was fabricated, but you can't ultimately be like, "This is untrue." And, and w- with science, what you're trying to do is you're trying to go, "Here's what we currently think is true, and here's the evidence to p- that points towards that being true," and that evidence might turn out, turn out to be wrong.