Um, and I think he, on his day, can be or should be one of the best midfielders in the A League, for sure.

Yeah.

I, I played with Denny at City, um, when he was younger, and he, he is a good player.

He is a very good player.

Um, very creative.

Uh, and I think, like Macca said, tho- those three should not just overrun the, the City midfield, but destroy them with the ball as well.

Um, and that's, as a player, that's very disheartening if, if you're in the midfield and you're getting bopped repeatedly.

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