
Lukasz Kaiser
OpenAI member of technical staff and co-author of the seminal "Attention Is All You Need" transformer paper, formerly a research scientist at Google Brain and CNRS researcher.
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Sep 7, 2026
Can Open Source Keep AI Power From Concentrating?
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Lukasz KaiserGUEST
... and, and then they charge for it, right? That, that concentrates it in the sense to get the...

Lukasz KaiserGUEST
Right? There, there may be some research breakthroughs that are needed to make them smarter with less data, but since research breakthroughs, you know, sometimes they come, sometimes they don't.

Lukasz KaiserGUEST
But the big companies are like, "Okay, but you can do things without research breakthrough, which is to go bigger, bigger, bigger." Now, that is very concentrating.
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4:31Sophia DewHOST
My last question for you is, what makes you feel optimistic that the future of AI is going in a direction that will be truly open and broadly empowering for everyone?
Ep 89: AI Research Legend’s Honest Assessment of Where We Are
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Lukasz KaiserGUEST
But then the techniques we have also seem to work so well that it just feels mind-blowing.
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46:33Jacob EffronHOST
Do you still feel that's the case? And what's your kind of current state of the union on the multimodal world?