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Lukas Ingelheim

Jun 17, 2026

38:01
But ultimately, it's back to the function of do we have confidence in the team that they can improve and they're willing to improve? And given agents are team members these days, you need to guide them and give them guardrails so that they can improve.
38:15
I think also it's like a good example of when we started 10 years ago and developed our own stack, right? And continue to do so today.
38:23
It was the right decision because in the end, it's like, this is how we stay sharp, right? Because we work with AI on a daily basis ourselves, right? This means technology has always moved very fast.
38:34
Now it just moves faster and faster and faster.
38:36
That means if you really want to be able to audit this, you need to stay ahead by also working with it on a daily basis.
38:43
Right.
38:43
So I think this I mean, if someone would have told us like last December that there's going to be like this automated draft punk, we probably wouldn't have believed it.

14 MINS LATER

53:01
And so us working six to 12 months out on the sales site just to make sure that there's one asset if there is any fix they have time to fix it right or if it's truly valuable how can we just spend the time to really craft the best story so that's my point of view i think
38:27
Of course, yeah
38:28
... we work with AI on a daily basis ourselves, right? This means technology has always moved very fast.
38:34
Now it just moves faster and faster and faster.
38:36
That means if you really wanna be able to audit this, you need to stay ahead by also w- working with it on a daily basis, right? So I think this...
38:44
I mean, if you...
38:45
If, if someone would have told us, like, last December that, uh, there's gonna be, like, this automated, uh, uh, draft punk, uh, we would, probably wouldn't have believed it, right? So this is, like, how fast, uh, this all develops, right? So just pushing the boundary, being able to also just experiment, I think for teams is, uh, uh, is really important.
39:02
And I think it's super interesting because if you look at it, there's, like, this whole Wild West mo- uh, moment right now, right? Where you're just trying out stuff, experimenting, right? So for instance, uh, last week when, um, uh, actually I'm back on writing features as well, uh, uh, for our, uh, internal tooling.

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53:37
Yep.

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