Do you think she saw those paintings of nuns as portraits of individual people or is it more of a generic idea of someone holy or, you know, someone from the convent? How do you think she saw those paintings?

It's a really good question.

I think the other thing about her conversion is that it marks another turning point, which is that she stops naming her subjects.

And I became really interested in this idea of archetypes and anonymity so she refers to her paintings of nuns as the nun in the singular and she often calls her paintings the reader or the convalescent so it's not that the individual subject is named but the nun the type of figure or woman or the activity is named and The Merpousapan paintings are named Merpousapan.

But if she's painting from the life, the subjects are not named.

And I became interested that she refers to her paintings of Merpousapan and all of her paintings of nuns as the nun.

So in the exhibition, the way I've written about them is in terms of the nun, the pilgrim, the convalescent, because these are terms that she uses.

Could you tell me a bit more about what you meant by this?

a lot of our community members, Lucy.

Yep, yep.

Very confident in the way I guess I was living life.

Okay.

And then there were warning signs, but I guess I chose to ignore them.

Okay.

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How did you start to turn around? How did your health start to improve? Or were you even thinking of business at that time as well? So many questions here, Lucy.

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She seemed quite, like, bold.

I think Gwen John was a color theorist.

So she was deeply interested in color and color theory.

And there's one section of the exhibition called Harmonies of Color, and it includes notebooks from her time at the Slade until the end of her life, where she's writing about color in different ways, copying out extracts from nineteenth century color manuals, copying out really detailed, formulaic, um, systems of creating color mixes, and also really poetic-Phrases to capture colors.

So it's, it's very complicated Gwen John's kind of relationship to color and use of color.

She's known as a painter that uses very muted colors and close tones, and she does often in her oil paintings use these very cool grays and blues.

But she was interested in how colors interact when they're placed side by side, which was really what Chevreul, who was the kind of most influential French color theorist at the time, who she was interested in, was interested in, in exploring what our experience of color is and how colors change when you place them next to each other.

And I, and I think that's an interesting point to think about the last two decades of her life because even if it was after a breakup to another artist, she's probably thinking, like, "What does matter to me?" She sort of cared a lot about other people.