Lucy Walker
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Jul 29, 2026
S2E42: Ibogaine Inquiries Part IV: Who Owns a Sacred Medicine?
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Kai DickensHOST
But when his friend first gave him this vial, he wasn't initially interested in trying it.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
He heard, "Oh, it's like LSD, but it lasts 36 hours." I mean, it sounded kind of exhausting and not very fun.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
And he said, "Well, that's nice," and he took the vial, but he thought, "Well, I'm not gonna take that." And so he ran into another friend of his and gave it to that friend, and that friend took the drug And called up Howard in the middle of the night and said, "You've gotta call Congress.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
It's a medicine." Howard was impressed enough by this midnight phone call that the next time he got a hold of some from his chemist friend, he thought, "Well, this, I'm gonna take it."

Lucy WalkerGUEST
He didn't realize what was special about this medicine except for that it was really exhausting and he felt like he wanted to sleep for a week.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
But then a few hours later, he woke up and felt completely refreshed, and he thought, "That's weird because I feel kind of fantastic and I haven't slept for days." [laughs] And then he was walking out in the city and he realized he was not in heroin withdrawal and he had not used heroin for days, and he should have been in acute withdrawal.
S2E40: Ibogaine Inquiries Part II: The Intelligence of the Medicine
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Kai DickensHOST
While a materialist at heart, she still attests to some of the unexplainable journeys the plant will take users on.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
There's a very strange experience, um, which you can kind of describe or understand in different ways, where you appear to see not just through your eyelids but if you're wearing a blindfold, completely through your blindfold.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
And the experience is that you can see the room and around you, and it's very confusing and, and, or you can see a notebook, and you can't tell is your-- are your eyes closed? Is your blindfold on? Is there writing in the notebook already, or are you about to write the notebook? I mean, things get kind of very mushy in there.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
It was a spindle with specific masks, with specific expressions, and I could describe the whole thing.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
And as we sat up, uh, after our first sort of probably six-hour round of medicine, the guide in charge went around and asked all the different, uh, eight of us sort of lying on the mats on the floor that were going through the experience to tell out loud the visions that we were having.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
And the first vision that the first person sat up and told us was the same exact vision I had just had.
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S2E40: Ibogaine Inquiries Part II: The Intelligence of the Medicine
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8:49Katherine EllisCORRESPONDENT
While a materialist at heart, she still attests to some of the unexplainable journeys the plant will take users on.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
There's a very strange experience which you can kind of describe or understand in different ways, where you appear to see not just through your eyelids, but if you're wearing a blindfold, completely through your blindfold.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
And the experience is that you can see the room and around you, And it's very confusing.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
And you can see a notebook and you can't tell, are your eyes closed? Is your blindfold on? Is there writing in the notebook already? Or are you about to write the notebook? I mean, things get kind of very mushy in there.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
It was a spindle with specific masks, with specific expressions, and I could describe the whole thing.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
And as we sat up after our first sort of probably six-hour round of medicine, the guide in charge went around and asked all the different eight of us sort of lying on the mats on the floor that were going through the experience to tell out loud the visions that we were having.
228 Repeat: Aldeburgh & Snape, 50 Years After Britten's Death
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He is very nice around.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
I am a public engagement associate and I'm, especially towards the end of the year, going to be marking the 50th anniversary of Britain's death, which was in December 1976.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
It seems that he was treated with a lot of respect, which may be a Suffolk thing, a kind of nonchalant pride in him, which is like, you know, not Mr. Britain, you know, but not making a kind of huge hullabaloo about him, which would have suited him as well.

Lucy WalkerGUEST
I don't know the extent to which the people who were already living in the town, who weren't involved in the arts in any way, whether they went to the festival concerts.
