Um, but can you explain, Lucy, what that psychological stress is? The financial pressure we can understand from some of the figures that Sally put forth.

I think that's, that's an area that FIFPro really want to sort of work into and, and really understand.

Like I say, I have my own experiences of that.

Um, but I'd, I wouldn't want to generalize that to the, the population, especially on a global level.

I think that perhaps from, um, Western Europe and, and the leagues that are really progressing, you're seeing a lot of players that are becoming, um, household figures.

You know, privacy is, is at a minimum, um, these days with some of those players, and I think that I've witnessed that firsthand in, in the clubs that I've played at.

I think when I was, um, when the Lionesses won the Euros, it really heightened the spotlight that those players were under.

But then the potential stress, lack of privacy that can come from that, Lucy.

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Like, my brother's 12 and 14 years older than me, so I was the little girl that they had in the garden just putting a ball in front of me when I was learning to walk.

And yeah, just really, it...

I couldn't escape from it.

I went to the...

My primary school, my school teacher there knew my dad, who was involved in football, set up a girls' team.

So it was very much just hit the ground running and, yeah, I've never sort of looked back in terms of playing.

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