Yeah.

Yeah.

The pigment-making community, um, I mean, it is quite small, but it's growing.

There are some amazing teachers who are really passionate and have completely different ways of animating the material, um, and teaching with the material.

Um, the...

I would definitely point people in the direction of Plants and Color who are an online platform who, um, have a pr- an amazing program with different teachers.

Um, some year-long courses, some one-off courses who are teaching about, um, natural materials, um, and also, um, specifically pigment making, so lake pigment making and earth pigment making, um, and everything in between.

Of course.