Come on, talk to us, dish the dirt.

I have.

I mean, it's I mean, I think, again, I'm not going to say exactly what Dan said.

I'll give you an example of one of the things that so I think a mistake I made, particularly earlier on in my career, was being scared to hire people that I thought might be better than me.

Yeah, that's a big one.

That's a big one.

Terrified that they would kind of usurp me in my role and I would be left on the sort of trash heap or whatever.

Does anybody have anything else they'd like to add to this conversation about what the future looks like, whether that be hybrid working, whether it be the tool sets, whether it be... being bombed back to the stone ages john puts it you know any other uh take on that bombed i'm not gonna say bomb that's a bit of an appropriate cultural reference but uh maybe uh yeah scent is probably a better term i mean i

perspective on that?

Lowering my hand this time.

So I agree with a lot of what Dasha said.

And what's interesting is when I started out in the 90s, we were in a very similar situation to you, Dasha, because there was no industry.

So, you know, we were making up as we went along as well.

And there were no people that had ever studied visual effects or any of these technologies because that wasn't a thing.

So it was a case of, oh, my mom knows some guy called Brian who fixed someone's computer once.

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