And then we reconnected during lockdown, just when we were both kind of like bizarrely trapped back in Lincoln.

Yeah, so I came over from New Zealand.

I was meant to be continuing my fashion career in Europe and then lockdown or COVID happened and I kind of had to re-evaluate what I could do.

It's kind of stuck in Lincoln.

But me and Ellie almost accidentally started metal detecting.

Would you sort of say that's a fair description? Time travel in one place?

Yeah, I think so.

But I think... for me when I connect with a find it's sort of you could be holding something that's maybe not seen the light for a millennia and you sort of think like who was the last person that held this before you did I think for me that's kind of like how I sort of think about it I don't think I'm time traveling but I'm like connecting it's like