... can we go back, can we go back to, like, how did you get introduced to Skills Competence?

Mm-hmm.

So I'm in the four-year program at George Brown College.

It's the only, um, bachelor's, bachelor's program in all of Canada.

So I'm getting my culinary de- getting my Bachelor of Commerce at the same time.

So I would scroll on the George Brown Instagram just to...

I wanted to see what the program was like, and I saw someone who said that they were in the same program as me.

So what, what does training look like for you?