So how can both those things be coming from serious professionals just in different fields?

Yeah, that's a really good question.

And the answer is that we all use models, right? We can't kind of run the whole planet through various scenarios to see what's going to happen because, you know, life's just not like that.

So we have to use models, very complicated computer models.

And you can get your models wrong.

You can, you have to simplify it too.

You can't sort of do a, you know, molecule for molecule model.

So can you tell us a little bit about how and where perhaps they went wrong and why it's seeming to prove so hard for them to course correct and incorporate the learnings from the science as you've outlined it?