What your long history is.

Cut me off when my time is over.

Um, my initial interest as a child was in costume design.

So I'd, I loved to sew, and I still love to sew, and, you know, as a child you're thinking, "How can I make my hobby my job?" And I loved watching films.

I loved watching all the old period dramas and the movie musicals with the amazing dresses that'd spin out, you know.

And, and I was like, "Well, I can't be an actress, but I could make the beautiful clothes that actresses get to wear." And that was, uh, get through school, GCSEs, that was what I thought I was working towards.

Um, and through one thing and another, that's not the route that I took.

I- is there like a, a Yellow Pages for let's call a producer? How do you get to that place?