How is it that you came to start doing this work? So what is it that brought you into the world of

grief? In 2022, my husband, Pete, wasn't feeling very well.

He'd had a really stressful few weeks at work.

He was having to make a significant number of his team redundant.

And he was really feeling all of that.

He was going through a really rough patch.

It was winter, so we'd all had coughs and colds and snuffles.

And so I'm just wondering for someone who's really in that initial phase who wants to feel it, but maybe can't or doesn't know how, like, what could some of those first steps be that they take?