But would you be able to color that in, please, and just talk about your experience and property as to why you're here now and how you got there, please?

Well, first of all, thank you for having me, Bimbi.

It's a pleasure to be here.

And I'm always excited to talk about what I do, particularly around that ethos, people before profit.

That's really, really important because that runs through the whole DNA of the business, me, and I guess where I go in the future.

Backstory.

I never actually knew that I was going to be a property developer.

awarded that medal for godly services in my community.