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Liz Saville-Roberts

Liz Saville-Roberts

Member of Parliament of the United Kingdom

Oct 28, 2026

Lindsay HoyleMODERATOR
19:20
Bless you.
19:21
The Prime Minister believes evolution is the key to unlock economic growth.
19:26
He champions new powers for English mayors, while still refusing Wales many of the economic levers already held by Scotland.
19:35
Yeah.
19:35
When he meets the First Minister at the economic- the National Economic Council on Friday, the key test is how much power he is prepared to release from Westminster, because that’s how he can make a difference.
19:49
We will do our part to empower communities.
19:52
Will he do his and give Wales the economic powers we need to prosper?
68:42
So as an MP for Plaid Cymru, you believe that, uh, it is your right to self-determine how you're governed?
68:48
I think anybody who believes in democracy believes that nations have the right to self-determination.
68:53
We have a bizarre constitution in the United Kingdom where the sheer number of members of parliament from England can decide what happens to Scotland, to Wales, and to Northern Ireland.
69:03
My party, Plaid Cymru, along with Sinn Féin, along with the SNP, believe that democracy should and can lead to self-determination if that's what the people of our nation so desire.
72:28
Sure, sure.
72:28
They point out the weaknesses in the powers that they have presently.
72:32
The means that we have of developing the economy for us, even with the powers that we presently have, we, we're very aware that we have waiting lists, higher waiting lists in Wales.
72:41
My party, Plaid Cymru, are investing 145 million into reducing waiting lists in Wales.
Lindsay HoyleMODERATOR
33:04
Liz Saville Roberts.
33:06
Diolch yn fawr, Ion, Lywydd.
33:08
Yr Heliwr.
33:09
Yr Heliwr in Nefyn is a community-owned pub, and it's buzzing with events fueled by local beers and foods.
33:17
And I have to declare an interest.
33:19
I have shares in Yr Heliwr, and it makes my husband very happy indeed.
33:25
[laughter] Now, supporting businesses like Yr Heliwr is, of course, key for economic growth in coastal areas, but they're held back by 20% VAT, while hospitality, of course, in France and Spain and Italy pays just 10%.
Lindsay HoyleMODERATOR
30:08
Liz Saville Roberts.
30:09
Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd.
30:11
Our new Plaid Cymru government has laid the foundations for change, showing what Wales can achieve with the powers we have.
30:19
The Prime Minister says devolving powers means better public services, and I agree with him.
30:26
But policing in Wales is still controlled from afar here in Westminster.
30:31
So will he please put his devolution instincts into practice and confirm that devolving policing will be on the table when he meets the First Minister next month?
28:36
Hear.
28:37
Diolch yn fawr, Lywydd.
28:40
Last month, Welsh voters elected a Plaid Cymru government with a clear message, fairness and hope.
28:48
This means tackling years of neglect by securing funding owed from HS2, a new financial settlement that reflects our nation's needs, and more powers for Wales, especially powers over our natural resources.
29:03
So would the Prime Minister be open to turning a conversation into real action to fulfill the demo- democratic wishes of the people of Wales? Because now surely is a time for us to work together rather than facing the chaos that threatens us from every corner.
7:19
Um, Liz, what does it actually mean to be here today? You've, you've actually, uh, traveled up from London at 5:00 this morning.
7:25
Yeah, it's been a bit full on different trains.
7:27
It was a Pendolino from 5:31 out of, uh, Euston to Glasgow to Crewe.
7:34
Uh, drove over from Crewe to see these here.
7:36
Uh, this is just so exciting.
7:38
Of course, we had, uh, Railway 200 last year, and this of course is on the Talyllyn to celebrate, you know, 75 years, the first heritage railway line in the world, the one that set the model and, and raised the bar for everybody else, and it means so much for this community.
7:55
There are people who, who come here to volunteer.
8:33
How big a part of the tourist industry is that to your constituency?
19:30
Presume that's 'cause you think you're not gonna take the voters with you.
19:32
Well, for us, no, and of course I'm very aware that I am here in London.
19:36
I'm here in London to talk about Wales.
19:39
The question was about Keir Starmer, but Keir Starmer is part of the symptom of what is wrong with the United K- Kingdom as a political system.
19:47
And what we have seen in Wales, of course, is a historic event today.
19:52
The Labor Party has lost its 100 years grasp on Wales, and it has done that to my party, Plaid Cymru, and Plaid Cymru wants to see devolution working in Wales.
20:02
I'm sure there are many places within, within England as well where we could see devolution working way more effectively for their communities, because what we have seen for decades, longer even, is that Westminster works very well for certain people and certain communities, and it leaves the rest behind.
21:02
The impression I'm getting is you're not
106:03
Um, what were you expecting at the beginning of this campaign?
106:09
That we would have a campaign in Wales that was in the face of what UK-wide feels to be the politics of division, the politics of setting communities against each other, the politics of despair.
106:25
And I think what has come through, and I'm very, very grateful to those people who haven't voted for Plaid Cymru before, but that we have managed to offer, of course, the proposal of change, which is the other word that everybody wants to mention.
106:40
But that that is the change with ambition and within hope, and of course, in what is economically the poorest region of the United Kingdom, but a place that feels that devolution, for devolution to work, there has, there has to be change.
106:55
Now, for Plaid Cymru, because I'm very used to people telling us that, "Oh, you do well in certain places in Wales," but we have done well in places in Wales where we have never cut through to anything like this degree before.
110:09
Um, but I was very struck by your leader in the debate last week when I said, "Well, what does independence mean for you? Are you effectively the same as the SMP? You want just a com-complete split." And I was quite surprised when he said, "Well, we want a new union in Britain." And I was thinking, well, how does that work with independence?
110:28
Well, you start off with looking at the relationship between Wales and, I mean, let's be brutal about it, particularly the southeast of England, which is where power lies and where the greater interest lies within the United Kingdom.
110:41
If you're looking at a reset of that, then you're actually looking at the powers that we have in devolution.
8:04
What's motivating you to do this?
8:06
Honestly, it leaves me gobsmacked that we're talking about something where it's obvious that Prince Andrew, we're gonna have to carry on calling him Prince Andrew as things stand, is, we're in a position where we can't automatically, with this man who has done so much damage to the reputation of public life in the UK, that we're talking about how can we somehow make the best of this bad situation.
8:29
And the best of the bad situation that the government and the palace seems to have come to the conclusion that is he will voluntarily give up his titles.
8:37
This is the 21st century.
8:39
This is no way shows the respect and the care for the victims of Jeffrey Epstein which we should be showing in the 21st century just to let this extremely privileged man voluntarily step back, and at the same time we can't even go into the details of what he's done.
9:05
But then you think again if he hadn't done anything, why would he have even volunteered to, uh, give up his titles?
9:11
The classic line, he would say that, wouldn't he? And there's questions now about his security officers from the Met.
9:18
Will these allegations become charges? We just have to wait and see with that.

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