I want to know, how is that so? How has he changed your entire outlook on everything?

Well, there's two components to your coaching, right? So it's your leadership coaching, and then there's also the person that you are at your core, right? So I went to my first Buffini event.

I think it'll be five years ago, or was it four years ago? I'm not sure.

It was in Arizona, Biltmore.

It was the first time I was ever at a high level.

real estate conference of any kind.

Started out the morning.

I know today we're touching upon the macro, but why have you stayed with Buffini all these years? Why has it made such a difference to you?