
Lisa Woods
Lisa Woods is Movement Building & Advocacy Director at Amnesty International Aotearoa New Zealand, and a frequent media spokesperson on digital accountability, protest rights and human rights.
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Jun 4, 2026
39 - How To Become A Market Of One & Tackling Traffic Decline
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Daryl MoorhouseHOST
So is there any, any, any way the company should may be reviewing the way in which their content is structured on their site?

Lisa WoodsGUEST
We can't assume anymore that, like, people just know our brand because if we're relying on AI bots to learn about us.

Lisa WoodsGUEST
So you need to be like, lay it all out explicitly, like, what, how your brand is, like, helping the consumer.

Lisa WoodsGUEST
The little uniqueness about your brand, like, making it really clear in your content 'cause AI likes that, um, uniqueness.

Daryl MoorhouseHOST
From a, a back end or tech point of view, is there anything that brands should be doing to make sure that their site is sufficiently indexed or categorized for AI bots?

Lisa WoodsGUEST
Yeah, we could see that there was no, like, bots hitting some s- some of our clients' websites, uh, which was, like, kind of suspicious.
Calls for an online independent regulator
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Lisa OwenHOST
Can you talk me through that a bit more, Lisa? If we're talking about regulation and a duty of care, I mean, what does that look like in practical terms?

Lisa WoodsGUEST
So when you've got a duty of care, what you're thinking about is when I provide the service, what are the types of harms that could come from that? So you're thinking, well, one is bullying.

Lisa WoodsGUEST
So you're going through all of the harms that are coming from these types of platforms that we're seeing and then putting in place mitigation measures.

Lisa WoodsGUEST
And then what we'd be looking, what we'd be wanting the independent regulator to do is when harm occurs, if harm occurs, did the platform do enough to try and prevent it? And when the harm occurred, did it respond adequately?
Full Show Podcast: 02 June 2026
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I know an independent regulator sounds like a great idea, but Lisa, what is it actually going to do? Because these companies are so big, they just ignore governments.

Lisa WoodsGUEST
And the other thing is we do already in our country hold big companies to account.
Lisa Woods: Amnesty International NZ Movement Building & Advocacy Director on the cross-sector call for digital accountability from platforms like Facebook and TikTok
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I know an independent regulator sounds like a great idea, but Lisa, what is it actually going to do? Because these companies are so big, they just ignore governments.

Lisa WoodsGUEST
And the other thing is we do already in our country hold big companies to account.
