Mm-hmm

... and that everyone might have their own perspectives and definition, and including me, you know? Still, still working on a crisper definition.

Um, but I do, just building off Chris's point, you know, I th- I think it is about both a, a belief and a set of practices that help you feel like you have choices over the future, um, that both you are shaping for yourselves and for others.

And for me, and I talk about this in the chapter too, I always, when I start my classes at Stanford, whether it's View from the Future, where we are bringing people that are pioneering the edges of their fields, or Inventing the Future, where we're teaching them practices to both imagine wider futures and bring them to life, I always start off and say, "Who shapes the future?" Just, "Who shapes the future?"

[laughs]

... and I, I wish, you know, that, like, we, you know, sort of don't wish, not really, but, like, would have sensors on their brains to just see like, well then, how much more enjoyment and learning and fulfillment did they get out of the next hour and a half of being in that class just from perhaps a 90-second, you know, entry that was surprisingly delightful.

And, um, I think leaders can have an opportunity to rethink some rituals that they have.

Like, why not start their weekly meetings with something that's a little bit more joyful? I'm not talking about unprofessional, and I'm not even talking about silly.