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Lisa Herbert

Lisa Herbert

Australian journalist, audio producer and ABC rural reporter (Toowoomba), author of "The Bottom Drawer Book: the after death action plan" and death literacy advocate.

Sep 17, 2026

21:31
She felt heard.
21:32
Yeah, and that's a really important point that you didn't shut her down.
21:37
I see that a lot, that somebody opens the discussion and then it's shut down immediately.
21:43
You know, don't be so morbid.
21:45
Oh, I don't want to talk about this now.
21:46
Oh, that's, why are you talking about that? Please, if those words come to your lips, just shut your mouth.
21:53
Just go, okay, noted.
24:19
But how do we actually open that conversation up?

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