Um, Lisa, please introduce yourself.

Well, thank you, David.

It's an honor to be here, and I really appreciate y'all's podcast and everything you do for the software community, honestly.

Um, we really, we really like the vendors that take that to the community to heart.

Uh, and, uh, thank you for your kind words.

I, I can't te- say anything I've done without mentioning my co-author and partner in crime, Janet Gregory.

We wrote all those books together and worked together, really, for more than the past twenty-five years, not at the same job, but different jobs, sharing our experiences.

Mm-hmm

hmm,

what can we do instead? And I had learned...

I wish I had it handy.

I should have got it before we recorded this.

Maybe I can give you it later and put it in the show notes.

But I had gotten a book.

A friend had recommended a book on remote facilitation of things like retrospectives.

We have