So what resilience do you need to factor in? Do you need to build in to those strategies and to those plans? And what does that resilience look like for users of the rail network? Again, Lisa, I'd like to come to you first on that one.

Sure, no worries.

There's a range of different activities within the term resilience.

So you're looking at your preparedness for an event when it's forecast to be on its way, how you respond to that event, how you recover from the impact, and then in the longer term, how you build resistance into the system so that you can reduce the likelihood of impacts occurring into the future.

What my role is focusing on is how do we adapt the infrastructure system in order to build that resilience so that we aren't impacted by weather events to the same extent.

However, it's not possible to adapt our way out of every type of event.

There will always be a super extreme storm that causes some sort of impact.

But what are your sort of longer-term goals you know funding programs looking like in terms of the network and how do you fund it