Anything that I miss in the first 46 minutes that you think, oh, this is a cool little feature that people might not know about? Gosh,

I'm not sure.

I'm like,

All of the building, all of the intricacy, it's a lot of hard work.

Why didn't you guys bring a pig? Because we're dumb.

I know.

There was no pig rot to Pixar.

They just kind of nailed

Going back to look at it, what would it feel like?

I mean, going back, first of all, the fact that we've been waiting kind of for Jesse to have this story, I think, for since 1999.

Yeah.

It's true.

I think everybody at Pixar and I would think some out in the world have been like, when are we going to actually give Jessie a chance to kind of lead the story and get a sense of kind of how to, I don't know, resolve her issues? Because she's got them.

I think she's the one character I think we know the most about.

in terms of her backstory and kind of where she came from.

rice a

I think it's, um-

um-It's always trying to figure out how much ti- how much we can maximize their work onto the screen.

Yeah.

And I think at the end of the day, that's where the win is.

It's like, if we can figure out how to maximize as much of their time ending up on the screen as possible, awesome.

I think that's ultimately what all of our tools are trying to do.

[laughs]

was that you know the boots all have daffodils on them which is the name of

her horse so she's got all the boots have the daffodils in them yeah so cute and she is she's just she's meant to be in terms of her look her style everything about her design and Like slightly older.

And when you're that age, like just, you know, that slightly older girl, you're like instantly cooler.

So we were just trying to kind of age her up just a little bit, make her that girl that like Bonnie would be like, she's way too cool for me.

She's never going to be my friend.

So that when they... actually do become friends.

And that's the thing that Bonnie's been struggling with the most.

So how do you invent characters that stay that long, you know, that can stay that recognizable and so for such a long time?

It's the power of music.

It's the power of music.

[gentle music] And you write to scores.

I mean, that's how you write.

Yeah.

Yeah.[upbeat music] Then you talk to Ludwig and he's like, "Oh my God, I'm such a huge fan of Thomas Newman."

What is a timely theme in this film?

One thing that feels particularly timely is this idea of how we connect with others.

Toy Story 5 is talking a lot about connection.

And that is a classic Toy Story theme.

We talk about friendships a lot in these films, especially with Buzz and Woody.

But Jesse and Lily Pad in this film have very different ideas of what connection can look like.

and what makes authentic connection.

So many

things.

I mean, fangirling? I am fangirling over actually Greta Lee.

Don't tell her that though.

I actually haven't.

Like she's right there.

So I don't want to have her.

I

Does that give a unique kind of pathos to this story?

Yes and no.

I mean, yeah, I think so.

I think that's what makes it so timeless in an irony in the sense that I think that's what draws people to it.

I think that they love seeing that the world is changing around them and that these characters are having to react in the same way we are to an ever-changing world.

It's what makes the stories feel like they are relevant and... of the moment and I think that is freeing for us as filmmakers is that we get to write to the moment for these toys and that's why for instance in this film we're writing about technology.

It's like we get to write to the moment and this is a huge threat to these toys, but it's also a huge thing that we are dealing with is inhumanity.

it important that, I mean, Lily Pad is ostensibly the villain here, but she's not really, right? Yeah,

So it was fun.

Okay.

I, I had, there was no Barbie rule in our house.

[laughs]

It was hard for me.

And so it was, we didn't ...

And so, but then, then our neighbor grew out of her Barbies.

And so the mom came over one day when my mom was at work and dropped off a whole, like, garbage bag full of her Barbies.

... and where she's gonna go from here?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, a lot of these things aren't necessarily perfectly planned from the beginning.

But I felt that there was this wonderful kind of kismet thing happening of Jessie, a character who we've seen experience what it means to become outdated, and in, and in such a dramatic way, too.

Something that feels almost as dramatic as our-

... that was a thing.

Oh, yeah.

One thing that always stands out to me, it's so specific, but one of the first scenes that went through production is called the drawer, and that's when Jessie puts batteries into Smarty Pants, and then meets Snappy and Atlas for the first time.

That's awesome.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, Pixar, it's like if the idea isn't there, we don't even go any further.

Yeah.

And it's not a big deal for us to be like, yeah, it's not there.

Let's just abandon it.

So it's like it doesn't kind of ever have a point of like, oh, now I'm in.

It's always just kind of at the very beginning.

It's not any one inspiration, really.