Mm.

And that's not a normal thing, uh, for them.

So it's this feeling of, uh, just something within the emotions that it's like- It's flattened somehow.

Uh, it's a flat effect.

There's not that bounce, there's not that joy, there's not that get up and go, uh, that helps you to show up for your clients.

So those are some of the early warning signs, and I think also sometimes a feeling of anger or feeling of resentment or, uh, deeper feelings which, um, sometimes we don't honor because they're uncomfortable, and as therapists we think we should have endless amount of caring.

But in reality, you know, we're human beings, too.

Would you explicitly say that at the outset then, about expectations? Or-