And I think that's an awesome thing to pursue.

And that's one of the things that came up.

I had a meeting today with one of our industry partners and they asked if we actually have a formalized process for teaching people leadership skills in order to take a project, you know, so something that is new, like a new technology or a new treatment for patients and how you create a program around that and a process so that it's seamless and that patients, we talk about this many times for many different facets of heart failure, how you are able to identify patients appropriately to get them to the treatments that you want.

And that is about building a program around it, building a program within a program.

And it was an interesting question because my answer was, I don't recall anybody teaching me that.

I don't know if it's inherent in some to be able to do that, but it's certainly a skill that we need to be teaching our new generation.

That's another passion of mine is really about developing nurses.

Mm-hmm.