Mm-hmm

...

even in those very early days.

So we remember when you say plucked, she got plucked to join Hole, and this was obviously a great opportunity and a very cool story.

But also, like, this was a band in, in chaos.

This was like-

Damn.

And these weren't like, "Oh, we need to replace a band member who left." Like, she died of a heroin overdose.