I mean, how do you get time to juggle it all?

I think busy people get things done is the bottom line.

My office, consider this as my annual leave, whereas this is like full on.

But yeah, we're selling houses.

We sell farms.

We farm at night and in the morning.

And that's just how we get through it.

Does it give you another insight into rural life, that different insight?

What was the state of your mind? What was the state of your marriage and, and of the family?

Yeah.

Well, now we're talking, we're getting into the years where some of the kids are...

It's, it's not going well.

And my husband, I remember thinking...

I, I developed, like, these, these terms that actually now are very helpful to use with my audience, and I still...

This is without diagnosis, but I used to think, "He's like an A and Z parent." A is I tell you what to do, and Z is you accomplish it.

This is a thing," what did that do for you mentally and emotionally when you made that connection?