Can you remind our audience, because some of our listeners will know, some will not, can you just tell us about the journey you had, um, from facing Wales and captaining your country to where you are now? And if you can, just the highs and the lot of lows, just give us a bit of detail about it.

Yeah.

Um, last two years have been, uh, probably more of, more of the lows on, on that rugby side, but, um, I, I guess good, good growth and good learning.

So, um, 2024 kind of got through Super Rugby, played, played all the games, which was probably the first season in a while which I'd done that unscathed.

And so I was feeling in a pretty good place body-wise, um, was putting consistent footy together, and I thought good footy together.

And- Was rewarded with a Wallabies call-up for the first time in four years.

So, um, a lot of that kind of injury enforced, which was unfortunate, but I kind of knew if I could get my body right, then I could get myself playing at that level.

Has the experience changed your perspective on getting on the rugby field?

Like, like such a rollercoaster of emotions in just a few days there.

Yeah, 100%.

That's, uh, that's exactly sort of how I remember it.

You know, I can remember, um, getting on the school bus, um, going home and hearing that, uh, Joe Royle had been sacked.

And yeah, I mean, we were disappointed that we'd been relegated.

Um, but I feel like he'd had so much...

I think Royle had so much credit in the bank with the fans that we weren't...

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You referenced the iconic season before, but going into that summer, how do we find the club? How do we find the team? And how were you feeling as a supporter? Pretty down chirpy, I'd imagine.

It was like a real state of euphoria for some time because, you know, in quite quick succession, succession we've gone from a team of mid you know being mid-table with a bit of hope to winning the FA Cup which was great but then to win the league it wasn't even in your wildest dreams and then the way in which we won the title you know to win the title on the last game of the season last kick of the season where the the United game had already finished and they thought they'd they'd won it and we ended up winning it you know it's It's like nothing else.

And it's obviously something that we still, still sing about now, you know, 14 years later, it's everyone's like best ever moment.

Um, you know, even winning the champions league, which was, was incredible.

And that season was incredible, but it's still the point which everyone refers to.

You know, when I think back to that time and that summer, half the people I knew had their ringtone as being the Martin Tyler commentary.

You know, you had loads of people who had that, which is such a thing to do.

years, well, basically between April