[laughs]

Yeah, so yeah.

I think it, uh, for me, I'm like, it's one of those things that is conserved, largely conserved across taxa.

Like, the whole thing of use it or lose it, it's in bees, it's in fish.

They did it in rattlesnakes.

Um, there's, it does it in mice.

Um, and now obviously you see it in the hognose snakes.

How so?