Tell us how you first got to hear of Lanny and what it is and where it's going, because I think it's really interesting.

Yeah, so obviously my two boys are good little golfers, so we play in a lot of the kids' events around the world.

And there's good friends of ours, a guy called Shane Wilding, who his two kids are right up there, if not the best, in the top three in the world at their ages.

Myself and Shane have been mates for five years or so.

And he contacted me about a year ago and said, listen, listen, mate, we've got this opportunity.

And I said, great.

I said, it's probably really good timing for me because I want to spend, you know, I want to travel a bit more, you know, I want to take the kids away, do this, do that.

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