Ms. Gill.

Is that better?

Thank you.

My apologies to justice, justices.

The CCLA argues that the law application distinction in this appeal isn't unique to this file.

It's a recurring feature of charter litigation in Canada.

This issue operates as a proxy war over forum, over remedy, over standard of review, as in this case, and in the end, over how much constitutional protection a claimant is going to get.

And we're not saying that principled distinctions on this issue can't be drawn.

Ms. Gill?

Is that better?

Thank you.

My apologies, Chief Justice, Justices.

The CCLA argues that the law application distinction in this appeal isn't unique to this file.

It's a recurring feature of charter litigation in Canada.

This issue operates as a proxy war over forum, over remedy, over standard of review, as in this case, and in the end, over how much constitutional protection a claimant is going to get.

And we're not saying that principal distinctions on this issue can't be drawn.

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But these permits allowed you to operate in a specific agglomeration, like a regional part of Quebec.

And the permits themselves were property, property like any other property, like your house, like your car.

People bought them, they sold them.

The government controlled those sales.

People could go and get a hippotech, like a mortgage, using their permit as collateral.

People inherited the permits.

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Can you just start by reminding our listeners this morning what happened in a nutshell when Uber entered the Quebec market and why so many taxi drivers felt, I guess, financially devastated by the change?

To go back, you have to go a little bit further in time.

For decades in Quebec, there was a tightly controlled market for taxi owner permits.

These are not taxi driver permits.

It's a really different kind of thing.

You have to have a different permit to drive a taxi.

But these permits allowed you to operate in a specific agglomeration, like a regional part of Quebec.

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