Why is it that people hate on LeBron the way they do? Because you have a pretty good relationship, and you know him well.

Well, I, yeah, I know him in his earlier career when I was coaching with Boston.

He came and played in our summer league for the first time, and, and, uh, Stacey, my ex-wife at the time, had, you know, kind of met his mom, you know, on a, on a fluke.

Uh, well, you know, I think some people don't like him because of the fact that he named himself the king.

You know, I get that a lot, uh, JB, from, from, uh, Marcus.

You know, we talk about that all the time.

Who, uh, who gonna name they self the king and then say that they're the GOAT and the greatest of all time when somebody else should give you those accolades? So I think, I think that's one of them, and then the way he, he does teams that he go to by handpicking certain guys that he want and being the, the, the player, the general manager, and the coach.

I've loved what you guys have said today, but just the state of the NBA and your message to the NBA and the players of the NBA, and I'll let you go first, Les.

Do you remember him saying that, Lester?

Yeah.

And, you know, and he was absolutely right.

We didn't have the knowledge.

You know, I was trying to get used to, you know, getting drafted and playing in the NBA and playing at home like everybody else on this phone was like getting used to the rigors of the NBA and learn how to do all that.

And when you go from at that time, you know, my first contract, my first year, I made seventy five thousand dollars.

and you know back in that day that was a lot of money because everything was was wasn't as expensive and i didn't know anything about that and you know it was just unfortunate that you know the agent that i had you know i think he siphoned some money from me and what was his name What was his name? Rest in peace, I'm not even gonna mention his name.

Is the same thing happening right now with Kaitlin Clark in the WNBA?

But just the state of the NBA... and your message to the NBA and the players of the NBA, and I'll let you go first, Les.

Well, I think the state of the NBA is in a great position.

Like I said, they're trying to expand and go over and start a league or something over there in Europe and have teams from over here go play over there.

I don't watch it as much.

You know, I barely, rarely sit down and watch a game from start to finish.

I might flick through, you know, but, you know, I just wish some of the guys would get their act together, you know, because like JB said, you know, it's a once in a lifetime.

You know, I'm concerned about John Morant.

Is the same thing happening right now with Kaitlin Clark in the WNBA?