So how do you see balancing that, protecting your professional reputation and your mental health at the same time?

That's a wonderful question.

And I have several suggestions and I can make several points here.

So feel free to jump in whenever you'd like.

So, well, the first suggestion I would say, or a food for thought, is that leaders can normalize conversations before a crisis.

I think it's important to not wait until someone reaches a a breaking point in some things that organizations can do to offset a potential crisis is to regularly discuss wellness, train managers to recognize warning signs, and that kind of goes with including mental well-being and leadership development.

For example, you know, let's normalize well-being check-ins.

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