And this year you're also, are you combining it with some other activities like London defense week or something like this?

Yeah.

So last year, um, the year before resilient in 2024 when we were founded there were some other events happening that were very similar um similar outcome driven really wanted to bring the startup industry together with end users military and policy and government and um so we noticed these things were happening we also noticed we were all completely uncoordinated because it was kind of early days in the sector and and we were all just attempting something new We all survived, which was very exciting, past one year.

And so the second year, Toby had the idea.

So Toby Stone is my co-founder.

He's also my husband.

And he's an amazing idea person.

so, so, so I'm wondering what, what's the magic here? How do you get them to come there?