So open your heart, lean into the conversation, and get ready to be inspired.

Welcome to NR Podcast.

This is Transitioning from Pain to Purpose, episode 14, and I am your speaker, Leslie Carney.

I am so grateful to be able to talk about this theme, transitioning pain into purpose, because I think every one of us at some point in our lives has experienced pain we never would have chosen.

The truth is, we don't get to choose whether pain enters our lives, but we do get to choose what happens next.

Now, I'll be honest with you, that wasn't something I understood for a very long time.

I thought if enough time passed, the hurt would eventually go away.

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And so I had a gentleman, a Christian man that he worked with me every month for almost a year on my book.

And so when we got to that part, he said, and this is a valid question.

He said, how do you know that you truly forgave them? How did you know you truly forgave them? I said, because I'm writing this book and while there are painful parts that I might get sad about, I don't get angry about.

I don't keep rehearsing that anger, that bitterness, I don't stay in that.

I now have joy in my life.

And so I know that I truly forgave them because now I can talk about it and not cry, not because my crying before was crying out of anger.

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