Am I right?

Mm-hmm.

There is a barrier.

It's something it took me time to understand because I think after what they've gone through, after what they had gone through, it's not like they were showing love with so much, you know.

I didn't have the type of grandparents that would be like, oh, sweetie, let me prepare this and that for you.

No, no, no, no. was a totally different thing like for example do not cry like we don't cry for nothing like find a good reason to cry okay this is one thing second thing let's say i would be in the car with my grandma and after 15 minutes i'd be like can you stop the car i need to use the bathroom she'd be can't you hold it and force me to hold it like these were her like for her it was I understood that later, but I thought growing up, my gosh, she's so tough.

She's such a tough grandma.

This is really

Like, what first inspired you, Leslie, to create The Last Ones Foundation?

I'm the granddaughter of four Holocaust survivors, so in many, many ways, this journey began long even before me.

But I grew up surrounded by silence.

Like, fragmented memories, inherited trauma, and, and things that were felt far more than they were ever explained to me.

And I don't know, my grandparents, like many survivors, did not really speak about what they had lived through, so I, I only grew up with bit- bits and pieces, you know.

A sentence here, a name there, and then silence.

And I was not even allowed to ask questions.

What does this mean exactly, and why do you think it's happening?