The, the topic today about, uh, you know, can a man change a marriage by himself?

Right.

Yeah.

Well, a- and that's actually kind of what I was talking about, about being a leader.

And when men understand and practice good relationship skills, their wives will follow them.

In fact, I actually worked with a client a while back, and he was excited because he hopped on the call and he said, "She's using, she's using the communication skills." And by the way, I never saw her, never talked to her, never...

But because he was consistent about using them, he was modeling them, it completely changed the way their conversations went.

That doesn't r- doesn't continue very well in reality.