What was that decision like to make, to say, "No, I need this because this is setting up the future of my family"?

Yeah, there was, you know, a huge thing that happened at the club and spoke publicly about it before already, so it's nothing, not breaking news or nothing.

But, um, yeah, a player profile was filled out and it was very stereotypically racist.

Um, Mum, I didn't wanna show my mum.

I didn't wanna show her.

I didn't, I didn't want to.

I grabbed it, uh, put it in my bag and I'm, yeah, I, I shouldn't have left it in my bag 'cause she did find it.

And this is what you're talking about, how it... things happen and they deal with that, but they don't deal with the overall problem, and that's what you're dealing with now.

But let's zoom down to the scale of an individual garden and hear from Leon Davis, who is on a mission to make rainwater management more effective and visually appealing.

Uh, well, I'm a garden designer.

Uh, that's, that's basically what my profession.

Uh, and I work with United Utilities mainly on the water harvesting side.

It's taking water harvesting maybe to the next level, so moving away from your standard plastic water butts.

Uh, looking at how we can make it a little bit more attractive, a little bit more accessible to people, maybe they've got a dual function, those sort of elements.

In this particular situation, we were asked to look at the water harvesting capacity, potting benches, seating, wheelchair accessible planters, so bringing in a number of different elements to complement the existing garden and also increasing water capacity.

So if I've understood correctly, United Utilities have, have basically got somebody who is designing gardens and ways of taking rainwater harvesting and using it in gardens in a kind of more innovative way.

Have we got any footballers amongst the family at the moment or is it all OK and just all cultural

stuff? No, look, I think, you know, I've got the three sons.

One's 19, he'll be 19 this year.

You know, he doesn't play football or nothing, so that's why he lives in Adelaide.

Young Nace, obviously, you know, he's tracking along really well.

He's made the State 14's schoolboys team for Victoria.

He plays rep basketball.

Brad, just on the back of that, can you explain to us what some of the work you're doing now with Collingwood is and how that's all going?