You're not going to regret it.

Jacob Frank, though, was then helped by the secret societies of the time, one in particular connected to a relative of his, called Moses de Brusque, who then went by various names before ending up in revolutionary Franks, where he would be eventually killed.

But then there was also another group, this is actually rather known, even Candice Sowen I had mentioned it once, but nobody talks about the Illuminati of Avignon, for example, of Dom Pernetti, who were actually financed by an account who was giving money to Jacob Frank.

So, Jacob Frank created the this heretical judaic Sabbatean sect, which was then known as Sabbatean Francism, but after he converted to Catholicism, not happy about that, he also started to work secretly with Orthodox Russia.

because the Jesuits themselves were also behind Jacob Frank.

So at one point, when the Catholic Church and the Inquisition understood that, they arrested him, but rather than put him in some, I don't know, terrible prison, they sent him to the monastery of the Holy Mary of Czestochowa, which is the most holy place these days for the Holy Mary in Poland.

It was actually the the Holy Mary that John Paul II used to refer to all the time.

What kind of practices were they?

Oh.

Oh.So there is a connection which is directly there, and, uh, uh, there was this figure known as the re- you know, all that progressive, liberal, Catholic word that it was promoted in South America, the Teologia della Liberazione, the theology of liberation.

It was actually born in that meeting because most of the people participated in that meeting were bishops and cardinals from South and Center America.

And then one of these bishops known as the Red Bishop, Bishop Camara, he became then the mentor of Klaus Schwab.

And he was eventually guested in Davos in one of the first meetings in the early '70s.

And that was rather controversial at the time, but Klaus Schwab wanted to push, uh, this progressive model even in a moment in which, you know, communist was definitely not popular in the West, or, you know, socialism were absolutely...

But, uh, he, he, he felt he needed to do that.

Mm

There's been talk about, you know, a, a book having been released a couple months prior and something with Taylor Swift and other people.

Well, I mean, I mean, the, the book in particular which you're mentioning, uh, is Annie Jacobsen books, uh, book.

Uh, now, uh, Annie Jacobsen has always been a little bit of a weird one, uh, I mean, she published not so long ago a book, uh, about Area 51, where she was dismissing, uh, the UFO alien hypothesis or, uh, even interdimensional hypothesis, uh, and rather she was giving a more terrestrial explanation to the whole thing.

Regarding, though, her book in particular, she had ventilated the possibility that the AI will unleash this kind of virus.

Or it could be actually pushed somehow through the homeless population.

That were the main hypothesis that she put forward in her book.

Now, of course, we are in front of a situation which is still very unclear.

Sure.

But with the Fatima material, it felt almost as though there were so many people focusing on seeing the Holy Mother that they created the image themselves.

Well, you see, here there is, I guess, different kind of approaches.

There is, of course, some paranormal investigators.

I mentioned in particular one of them who died earlier this year, who was involved also in investigating Medjugorje, who was involved in establishing the first faculty dedicated to the study of the paranormal for the Vatican universities in Rome.

This guy here, who is actually Father Andreas Resch, who established also a Institute of the Paranormal in Innsbruck, also later on in his life, and he apparently also established a protocol of contact for the Catholic clergy in case they had this kind of encounters of the third kind, which is unprecedented and not really talked about.

What I've noticed and what pushed me to do this book, which is still highly successful, I'm very glad that people have appreciated my effort, is that there is no other books talking about the same subject at the moment around.

I mean, we had some... small attempts but in the english language in particular there is almost nothing one instead for example in italian and even in french there has been some more you know in that investigation in that sense especially in italy in italy because of my friend Roberto Pinotti, who wrote 10 years ago a book on the UFOs and the Vatican.

I

Is the entire UFO phenomena worldwide being controlled by the Vatican, and is it up to the Vatican to decide when there will be full disclosure?

Well, uh, what happened, uh, and what I describe in my latest book, which is The Vatican's Top Secret Alien Agenda, it's, uh, the actual start of something that happened in Italy in the early 1930s, in 1933, with what is known as the Magenta crash or Mussolini's UFO.

Um, it happened in Northern Italy between the towns of, uh, Vigentina and Magenta, and at that point, uh, Mussolini ordered absolute silence on the whole thing.

But soon after, he also appointed Guglielmo Marconi, who was a known inventor of the radio, to head a special group for reverse engineering called RS33, Cabinet RS33.

The name RS33 is not actually, as most people might think, connected to, um, neither the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite Supreme Council, but neither also the year 1933.

It is actually the exact archive section in Milan dedicated to reverse engineering.

The intention of the fascists was to, of course, uh, please the Nazis in retrieving, uh, maybe some material from, uh, the Soviet Union, from the United States or Great Britain at the time.

Do you think that the Jesuits are working with Hollywood in some type of soft disclosure?

What are some of those other ones? And have you been able to done that or have you partake in any such activities yourself?

Well, yes, I did remote viewing when I was young.

I learned about it and I engaged in it after a direct experience that facilitated, let's say, the understanding of it.

You have to have clearly a psychic ability, a clairvoyant kind of vision, let's say.

You have to be able to understand because... not all people probably are able to clear their minds and then point on a specific object, a specific timeframe, a specific place.

The problem being, though, that remote viewing viewers, when they worked under governments, have always been militarized.

So the interest has not been for the betterment or the advancement of science or mankind, but rather for more strategic military kind of situations.

Regarding,

were they quite innocent when you first joined because most people at the bottom are well-meaning aren't they

No, I mean, you have to understand the Freemasonry itself doesn't have any criminal rituals that can be criminalized.

You can eventually not agree with the theological or the meaning of it because it's, of course, a series of lessons that are given in allegories that you have to understand and they cover what used to be really the teachings of the old mystery schools.

However...

And then, you know, you have to put however.

In Italy, for example, Freemasonry is a completely different thing because the P2 teaches the scandal of the P2 that eventually will end up in London under Blackfriars Bridge, as you know, with a guy called Roberto Calvi who was hanged, teaches us a completely different situation.

And in fact, what I noticed was that when I was initiated in 1993 by actually a P2 member, It was a completely different initiation from 10 years later when I got regularized at the United Grinology of England, which now has been forced since the 90s to include in their initiation ritual to the apprentice ritual the fact that it's all symbolic and not factual.

into

different birds, right? Yeah.

Yeah, different words.

But I mean, yes, the Nordics seem to have been the ones that were recovered.

Now, we know that in UFO lore, there is those who say the Nordics are benevolent beings, others who says they're actually the fallen angels.

Yeah, I've heard that too.

So there is a lot being said.

However, I think that regardless of the biologics that were recovered, that at the time would have been a little bit difficult to...

Oh, yeah.

Do you think disclosure is originating from within humans in the Vatican or is it coming from a non-human direction?

Okay.

Like I said, we have Pope Pius XII who had this encounter that he defined as the miracle of the sun that apparently happened in October, uh, 1950.

But 10 years, 11 years later, the following pope, Pope John XXIII, who will give birth to the transformative event that the Catholic Church calls the Second Vatican Council, that transformed completely the church and led also to some elements breaking from the church like we still see to this day, the Lefebvrians.

There is a lot of talking about this communication that happened recently.

Uh, the, the fact is that the Pope John XXIII was the first, apparently, Freemason after the Second World War.

He was also a Freemason and Rosicrucian, and in his past experience as Nunzio Apostolico, he had been initiated as a Freemason, apparently in France during his time in France.

Mm-hmm

And maybe it's not so much that they're being allowed, maybe with the development of the internet and, and also-

It, of course it's very different now.

When I started 20 years ago, it wasn't very different.

Like I said, uh, imagine when I started my first blog, after two months I had actually the PST, the Norwegian, uh, FBI, coming, uh, to my door, uh, isolating me and my then wife, and then threatening me to take the kids.

I mean, it wasn't a joke.

When we started this, there was a series of threats.

I was arrested, I was tortured.

Yeah.

So, yeah, why don't you tell us about your kind of journey, and as you said, it's been a couple of years since we last talked, so why don't you talk a little bit about your...

Yeah, last time we talked, we focused very much on Invisible Master, which was, let's say, the first book out of the Confession series which is dedicated to this topic.

However, it was published before I arrived here in the United States of America.

And once I arrived here in the United States of America, synchronicity, which is always a subject of importance when we talk about ufology, brought me to Palm Springs, and I ended up in contact in the desert.

And when I ended up in contact in the desert with my other publisher, which you know, Brad, I started to have the feeling that there was something behind it all, that it wasn't really clear to me, that I needed to understand a little bit more who was piloting this whole disclosure narrative.

And so that led me in turn to study from my own perspective, which, as you know, is from somebody who has grown up basically in the Vatican almost, you know, in Rome and working with the Vatican media and all the rest, and discovering that in the end, all of these so-called disclosure advocates are in reality piloted by the Jesuit astronomers who have been leading since the very early 1900s.

They took over the Specula Vaticana, so they are the ones in charge of the Vatican Observatory.

Is that

You ever connect the two?

Well, actually, I talk about the Archbishop of Los Angeles, uh, which was a stable in, uh, uh, working together with the Vatican behind the scenes with the military-industrial complex from the very beginning.

In fact, he was in Roswell.

I'm talking about, uh, Cardinal, uh, James Francis McIntyre, who was a rather controversial figure in itself.

But he was apparently not only in Roswell, he was also with Eisenhower during his alleged meetings with both the Greys and the Nordics.

So the Vatican has always been there, and that's why I'm rather glad to see that people are starting to acknowledge the, the relevance of this book because it shows that the David Grusch of the situation, the Al Puthoff of the situation, these are all Catholic Jesuit agents working, uh, on this so-called disclosure, which of course is directed by, uh, the Jesuits.

Now, you had, uh, uh, I saw recently Father Ripperger, who is a traditionalist, uh, still believes, of course, in following the current pope, but he's not, uh, like the progressive force that follows the Second Vatican Council, which, like I explain in my book, is the real knot here of the problem because the first UFO crash, contrary to what Steven Spielberg states in his movie and what, uh, the Age of Disclosure, uh, stated in their documentary last year, happened, like David Grusch admitted in 2023, in Northern Italy.

Okay.

wrote a book

about, oh, I didn't know that.

The Rise and Fall of a Frankist Monster.

And it is about the fact that him and his family and his background and all his milieu were connected to the infamous Sabbatian Frankists.

The Sabbatean Frankists are the sect that has corrupted Judaism and sits on top of the pyramid of power together with the Jesuits.

So they are the ones who control the so-called Illuminati, the various secret societies, paint tanks and so on, including Peter Thiel's secret society.

In fact, I actually talk about them in this book.

But before we do that, to give the audience a preface, like what role do the Jesuits play in society and not just society, but like the underbelly of society? Like, are they the enforcers for the Vatican or are they much more?

they are all with the origin of sin, and we

should baptize them.

That was the moment that the Catholic Church came up with this idea that will manifest in this book that these two Jesuits put together.

One is the former director of the Specula Vaticana, But in reality, there was an article by the New York Times that precedes this book by many years because it was dedicated to Father Coyne.

Father Coyne was another director of the Vatican Astronomic Section, the observatory, which is known as Specula Vaticana.

They're all based in Castel Gandolfo.

Castel Gandolfo is the summer residence of the Pope.

I don't think so, no.

Yes, the Manhattan

Project.

Now, why all this truth is not being revealed at the moment is because there is reverse engineering involved.

I had started discussing this reverse engineering in volume seven and volume nine of my confession series.

But I thought this was the time to actually show the documents.

And I have documents in my new book that showed that Mussolini retrieved this UFO.

The documents came from his son-in-law, who was then shot by Mussolini at the end of the war because he betrayed him, Galeazzo Ciano.

Yeah, that's way more powerful.

Uh, can you expand on that?

Well, I mean, uh, there is a variety of beings.

At a cosmic level, we can see reflected the same things we see on Earth.

Now, at a small, uh, microcosmic level, we have already good and evil.

It's obvious that that can be also reflected, uh, all over the universe.

And so then we could have, uh, creatures which are not, uh, you know, specifically fallen angels, but possessed because they are just as a human being can become demonic, then you can have somebody possessed by some evil factor.

However, it's very important to understand that, for example, at the moment, there is a lot of talk about hyper, you know, interdimensionality, extra-dimensionality.

... how much do you think-

Mm.

No.

It is not.

[laughs] That's not the case.

The, there was, of course, a formal Illuminati order, the one of Adam Weishaupt.

There were many others, uh, later on, uh, imitations because, uh, Weishaupt himself, when he was persecuted, he simply said, "We're gonna change the name.

We're gonna simply, uh, change the facade, not our intention to, uh, bring the world to succumb to our one world government," which is also led by the bankers that supported Jeffrey Epstein.

Well, would you say that the majority of the people involved, like let's say in Freemasonry, at what level do they have-

Mm-hmm.

Everything is basically permissible because nothing is true is something that, of course, brings us back to Assan-e-Sabah, which I've discussed in Volume 10 of my Confessions, which is a very important book still, because it's the only book where I discuss Islamic Freemasonry, Islamic secret societies.

and the fact that this secret society of assassins became very important in those days of the Crusades because it gave the Templars the opportunity to kill their adversaries in the Sunni world.

and of course all these nuances of the various factions of Islam which are ever so you know schismatic and fighting and inner fighting since the death of Prophet Muhammad basically soon after the nomination of the fourth Rashidun Caliph Ali which was his cousin who married his own daughter and then the whole First schism of the Shia Islam took place, which brings us right where we are today with Iran, of course.

So a great disappointment with Trump, who we have sustained.

And who, of course, though, when I saw the first signs with the Epstein files of him not doing the right thing, but there was also other signs personally that I have detected that led me to break from my previous support to the president.

The first sign was when I was actually supposed to go for the inauguration.

We're on our own here.

What are your insights since we last spoke about the state of our society and

the world, really? Thank you, first of all, for having me on again on the forbidden knowledge.

As we are talking about forbidden knowledge, I would say that this knowledge about 2020 was in the cards of the Illuminati for a long time, as you know, in the various mystery schools.

And for that reason, I have talked about it repeatedly in my books, and I have even mentioned the virus earlier.

A couple of times.

So it was not a secret.

Of course, we have also the third world war card to be unveiled fully in the coming months.

know you need to you need to stand up for your sovereignty here

uh so tell us a little bit about what you you've learned so far this year about everything that's going on what are your insights since uh we last spoke about uh the state of our society in the world really

thank you first of all for having me on again on the forbidden knowledge as we are talking about forbidden knowledge i would say that this uh knowledge about 2020 was in the cards of the Illuminati for a long time, as you know, in the various mystery schools.

And for that reason, I had talked about it repeatedly in my books, and I had even mentioned the virus a couple of times.

So it was not a secret.

Of course, we have also the Third World War card to be unveiled fully in the coming months.

But aside from that, the work that I am doing at the moment is just to lay the basis for something new for the future that I think will manifest if there is enough people with the right idea and the right will to change things.

Unfortunately, When you have enemies like the people that surrounded the now deceased Jeffrey Epstein or people in Hollywood up until not so long ago were brooding and going after people like Avril Weinstein.

You know, I don't know what the answer is, but I'd like to get your thoughts on it.

Was he using Mother Teresa unwittingly or was Mother Teresa working for him? That's the question I have.

Well, uh, Mother Teresa is a very controversial topic, uh, because, uh, in the outside, uh, of course, the church, uh, promotes her image as the image of a saint.

In reality, uh, she had a lot of criticism from people who collaborated with her, who were close to her.

Uh, she was quite a calculative, uh, uh, mind that, uh, left the religion always second to other kind of interest of a geopolitical or, or of other, uh, nature.

Human trafficking, of course, and the whole, uh, topic, uh, used in blackmail rings has always been present, as you know, in the intelligence world.

Uh, Robert Maxwell was, first of all, though, somebody who initially came, uh, from, uh, poverty, from a situation, uh, though that had hundreds of years of, uh, uh-Like I said, the Sabbatian Francism was a sect within Judaism, so we don't have to identify all the Jews with negativity or with a negative connotation.

That is the wrong kind of approach.

Could we say the same for Mother Teresa? I mean, do we know-

Yeah.

I mean, he doesn't look, uh......

Black.

B- Apparently, within the conclave, he was promoted also as such, because there was a need for a, uh, African pope, but there was, unfortunately for them, too much clashing of forces within the African continent between the progressive and the conservative ones, so they couldn't really come out with a name that will please everybody.

Then we had on the first day of the conclave, the, uh, Filipino-Chinese Tagle, which was a favorite, Antonio Luis Tagle, who got 18 votes.

But unfortunately, uh, there was, uh, some people who were not pleased with him, and there was the Italians who wanted to still push Parolin.

The 17 Italians con-...

Right.

'Cause I, I always heard the Jesuits were the military arm of the Vatican Church.

Okay, let's say this, uh...

Uh, formally we can say that actually they are, but they are more in disguise than the Knights Templars.

They came around in 1540.

They were approved by the Vatican in 1534.

In Paris, the Montmartre, they came together, this, uh, Ignatius of Loyola and these other disciples.

They were, of course, most of them previously knights, soldiers, people who had fought battles, but they wanted to embrace the religious life.

Should not have kids.