Do you want to talk about how that has worked out for you with your industry?

You bet.

But I want to throw out there this first.

One of the things that Steve Mustard and I heard repeatedly in our work in Wyoming was we speak operator.

When you bring people into these facilities that they've been operating water systems for years and years and years, they don't have an IT background, they don't have an OT, really intense OT background, like the sector that I came from, you have to have people that can look and speak in a common language that they can understand.

When you get a lot of the acronym groups coming in and they want to give them, we know the big words, but it doesn't mean anything to them.

So you've got to know your audience.

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