So how did you get into this work?

Absolutely.

I mean, it was half of fell into recruiting.

So I graduated from my master's in human resources with a glint in my eye that I want this big corporate HR generalist job.

And so that is what I was interviewing for and dreaming about, and that unfortunately did not happen as I graduated.

So, uh, somebody referred me into a small consulting company, and that's how I fell into recruiting, and absolutely fell in love with that at a later point in my life.

But that was how my journey started, and it was funny, like, this past Father's Day, I was thinking about it this morning.

But as you've gone through some of your transitions, for those that are out of work right now, what kind of tips would you give them that you may have learned in the last handful of years as you've navigated fractional, temporary, uh, doing your own thing to where you are now?