So I've done a little bit of an introduction, but I tend to find that it's helpful to ask the person that I'm speaking to for a bit more about where they've come from and how they've ended up where they are today.

I'll try and keep it as short as I can, because as with most of us, it's a long old story.

You touched on the 33 years.

For me now, as I look back, I know my pain began mid-teens, mid to late teens.

And from 10-year-old losing my dad, life wasn't particularly great.

And yet that nervous system was being sensitized from a really, really early age.

early age.

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