Mm

...

in terms of, like, an extension of the year, which is a parenting with the recogn- the kind of recognizing that [laughs] first year of life or however long is going to cut into your research productivity.

It might interfere with your teaching, and I think that is probably, in most of academics, the accommodation that I think a lot of universities make.

I'm older.

I, I believe when I went through it, it was true for female academics, and male academics, it was always...

Like, I did not take that additional year because while it was offered, there was always the perception.

[laughs]